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Women in Red - November 2026

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Updating NCEI refs for the St. Louis tornado outbreak of February 1959

I'm trying to bring the aforementioned article to GA status, which will likely be my last major contribution before I semi-retire at the end of the year. However, the NCEI refs need to be updated. Can you help me with that please? ChessEric 00:32, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

@ChessEric: I am actually planning on leaving the project as well, funny enough (was going to do it tonight but my team is doing too shit during the current game to be in the Wikipedia mood). Sure, I can help. Eoline 00:54, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! We can BOTH make this our last major contribution! Also, sorry, but my team played awesome today. LOL! ChessEric 01:01, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

We're trailing USC, for Christ sake. My last major contribution will be getting 2011 Tuscaloosa–Birmingham tornado to FA status and then I'll dip; I'm really not a fan of the way the project is heading and I want nothing to do with it. Eoline 01:24, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear that. I've had to keep an open mind myself. I'm not leaving the project though. ChessEric 22:38, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

I've tried to keep an open mind and have attempted to get involved in consensus-building processes within the project since the rush of newer users but every argument ends in a back-and-forth and the entire project has deviated significantly from its late 2025 state, which is when I was actually motivated to work with others because there wasn't endless infighting. I've even changed up my major plans; I'll be shooting to be a National Park Service employee rather than a broadcast meteorologist (to be fair that's mostly unrelated, though). The Wx community as a whole is so incredibly toxic and it really angers me sometimes. Eoline 14:56, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

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Hi

Hi Eoline. I wanted to answer some of your questions/statements regarding my article.

• Only seems to go to 2008 despite there verifiably being tornadoes since then

→ I am the only one adding tornado events and you can't expect me to add them all at once.

• Not seeing the use case for File:Image of the January 24, 2019 Antalya Wedge Tornado.png (it's also not mentioned in the article)

→ I will add it once I get to 2019.

• Dots instead of slashes for date; these should be spelled out (ie May 27, 1997 instead of 27.5.1997 or 5/27/1997) per other tables of a similar scope

→ In my country people usually write dates with dots. I fixed it

• Unknown tornadoes no indication of what this means.

→ Tornadoes that caused damage but currently have no official rating.

• A strong and historical tornado > historic, or historical?

→ Both of them are grammatically correct.

• The 1930 Edirne tornado was a deadly tornado that struck Edirne, Turkey > repetition - it's obviously in Turkey because the list is about tornadoes in Turkey.

→ Grammar mistake

• July 27–28, 1930 > the table says only 28.7.1930.

→ ESWD gave this tornado a time between 18:00 UTC (27 July) and 06:00 UTC (28 July).

• An Intense F3 improper capitalization and I question if "intense" is needed as a descriptor if that's generally what F3+ and EF3+ tornadoes are classified as.

→ ESWD calls IF3/F3 rated tornadoes intense

• 1-kilometer needs a {{convert}} template
• 150 meters needs a {{convert}} template
• 100 meters away needs a {{convert}} template

→ I Fixed them.

• The first "18.10.2006" IFU's color box is messed up.

→ I Fixed it

• For all of the "18.10.2006" tornadoes, they should be given unique descriptors rather than just copy-pasted entries.

→ I couldn't find any sources about them other than ESWD.

• A tornado which is barely documented on ESWD and local media. No image of the tornado surfaced I am not a volunteer at ESWD and so I don't have access to the primary sourcing method throughout this article but I doubt this was said on the entry itself.

→ ESWD description only says tornado + I couldn't find any sources about this tornado other than ESWD.

• Only one photo of the damages available at present. probably showing F1 or F2 damages. improper grammar and something I doubt the ESWD entry says
• Only a few photos of the damages available at present. Probably showing F1 damage same here.
• ). destroying greenhouses. I improper capitalization and punctuation
• e; barns completely > barns were completely

→ All of them are actually in the ESWD reports. They probably didn't realised that they made a spelling mistake. ⚡ StormL00ver ⚡ 16:59, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

The Monthly Wiki-Weather Review - Issue 3 (November 1, 2026)

Volume I, Issue 3, November 1, 2026 ←(Previous issues) · 3 · 4 → The Monthly Wiki-Weather Review: End of Daylight-Saving Time in the US (Hopefully Forever) Edition This is the third edition the monthly newsletter involving Wikipedia's weather articles, including the severe weather and tropical cyclones projects. The newsletter aims to provide in summary the recent activities and developments of the WikiProject. If you wish to receive or discontinue your subscription to this newsletter, please visit the mailing list. Past editions can be viewed here. Editors: Hurricanehink (HH), Eoline (E), GiftedIceCream (GIC), Lightbulb Noob (LN), StormL00ver (STL)

New Featured and Good Content Since the last issue, the following became featured articles or featured lists : Hurricane Jeanne Timeline of the 2001 Pacific hurricane season 2010 Yazoo City tornado Since the last issue, the following became good articles : November 2000 Hawaii floods 2000 Pacific hurricane season 2011 St. Louis tornado 2012 Crittenden–Piner tornado 2012 Dexter tornado 2008 Parkersburg–New Hartford tornado Selected new articles The following articles were written/published in the last month (or were missed). It excludes any of sub-articles within Weather of 2026. 1881 Georgia hurricane 1990 Bakersfield Valley tornado List of Delaware tornadoes Tropical cyclones in 1990 In the news The following 2026 weather articles were written/published in the last month (or were missed). List of Asian tornadoes in 2026 was created, following a discussion sparked by an outbreak of tornadoes in Turkey on May 3. Hurricane Nolo, also known as Typhoon Nolo, was nominated for merging while the system was still active, leading to an extensive discussion on whether the storm's lengthy meteorological history makes it warrant an article. Hurricane Isaias (2026) led to an extensive and ongoing discussion regarding the extratropical remnants of tropical cyclones. 2010 Yazoo City tornado becomes the second ever individual tornado article (excluding an old, now-deleted article) to achieve featured article status. Tropical cyclones in YYYY: The Series There are several series of yearly weather articles. This month, HH wanted to focus on the yearly Tropical cyclones in YYYY'. The first of this type of article was 2010's annual list, created in 2011, although it was largely a disambiguation page, until TheAustinMan expanded it in 2014. There was an AFD for this article in 2018, but was kept, following an extensive rewrite by Hurricane Noah. Also in 2018, the annual TC lists for 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018 were created, with the 2018 list being the first one created since 2010. There are annual lists of tropical cyclones from 1990 to 2026, with 1990's being published this month. There have been recent discussions regarding these lists, such as whether the year's longest-lasting storm should include tropical disturbance status (inspired by the recent Hurricane Nolo), and a recent discussion that proposed adding individual storm track maps to the tables, as seen here. Eventually, there should be yearly tropical cyclone lists going back to at least 1900, likely 1850. Every year since 1861 has known tropical cyclones on Wikipedia across at least three basins. 1838-1860 have tropical cyclones in at least two basins. 1837 had 11 known Atlantic tropical cyclones, included in an article with the other 1830s Atlantic storms. That suggests that going by decade would be the appropriate decision at some point (1840s perhaps). If you're curious, 1798 is the most recent year that has no known tropical cyclones. But there was a notable blizzard that year, so a theoretical Weather of 1798 article would not be empty. New Members The following editors joined Wikipedia:WikiProject Weather/Severe weather/Tropical cyclones this year: RunningOnBrains, Tarou-Rai, Mesocyclonic93, Ari 1600, CharlieRidesRollerCoasters, Elidoesbnuuy, IrishSurfer21, Kphlspotting, Kenyouseeme, shane, TornadoEF4, WXchaser, Catlover1519, Pillar8908, LuniZunie, Hurricamia75, EnjoyLightEnjoyTruth, Hurricane Jacob, ViridLeWiki, Mitchsavl, Nibnab43637, Pogowo, CycloneTheta, ArcherAndVance, BlueForce87, Ilikereadinespeciallyenglishbooks, Scourgezoned, Guythatlikeshorses2, OneFortyTwoK, Novalite.Wx, KM1018, Tkin VN014, Justcgi, and XenonTNG Welcome all of you and happy editing! If you aren't a member of the WikiProject but want to join, then please do! We have hundreds of editors working on tens of thousands of articles. And if you aren't a member of the WikiProject and don't want to join, and don't like this newsletter, then I'm sorry for the choices that led you to reading this. You can stop now and read another random article. From the vaults The article Snow is over 25 years old, and here is what that article looked like on September 20, 2001 Snow is a crystaline form of solid water or ice, consisting of a multitude of snow flakes. Since snow is a composite of innumerable discrete entities, each of which is unevenly formed, it is an open structure which makes it soft, unless packed together by external pressure. Snow is commonly formed as water vapor concenses at high altitude in the atmosphere and subsequently falls to the surface of the earth. Snow is a prerequisite for many of the winter sports and much beloved by children. In regions where snow is scarce but temperature low enough, snow cannons may be utilized to produce an adequate amount for sporting purposes.... Snow may be used as a construction material, and is the primary component in for example igloos. The Snow article is now a good article, and survived a good article reassessment in 2017. This just goes to show that your edits could be the foundation for edits 25 years later. Tasks/projects from previous newsletter - Issue 1 had a section for the series of weather articles. This included seasons or weather events by year, updating tropical cyclone track maps, button bar templates, and changing the coding for the season infobox template to allow for severe tropical storms for WPAC. Issue 2 mentioned the various weather-related lists by area that are still needed. There are drafts for lists of tornadoes in both Florida and Oregon. Development, Reminders, and Updates On October 5, the tropical cyclone WikiProject turned 21, during the busy 2005 AHS. Mother Nature celebrated this year with a slew of hurricanes. For those curious, the Climate WikiProject (now Climate task force) began on March 9, 2006; the severe weather WikiProject on May 7, 2007; and the WikiProject Winter Storms (now Non-tropical storms task force) on December 22, 2007. The entire Weather WikiProject originally began as WikiProject Meteorology on March 19, 2006. The 1971-75 Atlantic hurricane reanalysis has largely been implemented, such as the tracks, prose, additions, and deletions. Following a proposal in September, Pacific typhoon season articles now have infobox parameters to be able to show very strong/violent typhoons, which are the JMA classifications roughly equivalent to major hurricanes/super typhoon status. The 2025–26 Asian winter was deleted after an AFD. Longtime editors might (or not) be surprised that the first user to comment made their two (and only) edits, commenting only on the AFD. While the behavior was unusual, the second comment pointed out that "2024-25 Asian winter and 2023-24 Asian winter are likely in worse condition then this article". HH replied with "other stuff exists" as something to avoid in AFD, and acknowledged that these other winter articles might survive the chopping block (for WP:SYNTH reasons). On a more technical note, the NWS Western Regional Headquarters observation maps and time series no longer include international observations. Archiving information is important, and so is using reliable sources. If you are used to using NCDC and US-based sources, they might not always be the most reliable (such as the US no longer keeping track of billion-dollar disasters). Familiarize yourself with more international sources - HH experienced this recently on the Hurricane Lala talk page over its damage total. There is a Project resources page full of links (that might need updating), or just try looking up information from that area's weather agency. International tornado trouble After a consensus was formed to split out List of Asian tornadoes in 2026 from List of European tornadoes in 2026, various editors began disputing over what articles should cover which tornadoes, especially over whether tornadoes in Turkey, Russia, and surrounding regions should be classified as European or Asian. This also led to the creation of a draft for Middle Eastern tornadoes in 2026. Additionally, many of the discussions related to this contained rather un-WP:CIVIL behavior, and LN would like to take this as an opportunity to remind everyone to respect other editors and the work they put into projects. The discussions led to an ANI thread, multiple sanctions, and two users getting blocked. Image of the month - Typhoon Champi Typhoon Champi became the strongest storm (so far) of the 2026 Pacific typhoon season, with a minimum central pressure of 895 mbar (26.4 inHg). Champi had three different sandboxes at one point, leading to a series of pages being moved back and forth, before the draft was published. Humo(u)r Tropical Storm Zeta in 2005 led to so much confusion and reverting that it was included in Wikipedia's lamest edit wars. For those who don't know, Zeta formed in late December 2005, and lasted until 2006. The debate was over how much to include Zeta in the 2006 Atlantic hurricane season, and indeed, the 2006 timeline was created on New Year's Eve while Zeta was active. Ultimately, Zeta was reduced to a footnote in the 2006 timeline, and a brief mention in the lead and storm summary. Sadly, there was another lame edit war when the 2007 season began early, and whether the season was still considered "active" (or future) after Andrea dissipated (but before the season officially began on June 1). Thankfully, the precedent was set, so by the time 2016 came around and we had Alex in January, the season was considered active, even after Alex dissipated. Comments or suggestions? This is the third edition of what will hopefully be a long-running newsletter. If you have any suggestions or complaints, click on the previous links or try the newsletter talk page. For suggestions of new articles, check out the article requests page (or here if it's a tropical cyclone request).

Lightbulb Noob (talk) 00:21, 2 November 2026 (UTC)