User talk:Meters

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Grey High School Edits

Why does there have to be a wikipedia article for a person when there is clearly a credible link with reference to the person's credentials as cited. Is that not what the citing function is for? There is in fact an article on Wikipedia for Mickey Gerber but it is in french and Wikipedia doesn't allow it to be linked anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2C0F:F4C0:A14B:DDF0:F4E6:5CF5:795B:129B (talk) 23:21, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

1. As several notes say, don't post on this page unless my main page is protected, which it is not.
2. New posts go at the bottom of the page, not the top. I have moved iit.
3. Please sign your talk page posts.
4. As for your edits, no, it is not sufficient simply to show that an alumnus is a high level athlete to show notability. We do not presume notability simply because someone is a professional athlete. See WP:WTAF. And please stop claiming people are alumni without any evidence. If their article does not contain a reliable source showing their attendance then you must add a reliable source to the school article. See WP:V Meters (talk) 00:07, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Moved from my protected talk page Meters (talk) 08:52, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Hello

I remove tags on pages I believe have been handled. Feel free to put back the tags if you think the tag has not been resolved. Thanks. DentistRecommended (talk) 10:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

And I warned you because some of those tags were clearly still warranted. Meters (talk) 10:26, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

OP indef'ed Meters (talk) 08:44, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

ETSTransitFan1996

I hear that New Flyer D40LF's are actual ETS Buses. They mistook themselves by putting a D40LFR image on the "Riding ETS" page, as that image is supposed to be a New Flyer D40LF. I will check on the ETS Website. @Meters ETSTransitFan1996 (talk) 21:28, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

What does this have to do with the fact that you added unsourced content that contradicted the existing ref? Meters (talk) 21:38, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Because the D40LF's are actual 40-foot low-floor buses. ETSTransitFan1996 (talk) 06:08, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Again, this has nothing to do with what I warned you for. Meters (talk) 06:38, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

bishop cotton boys school

can I now add Manohar Chatlani to notable Alumni list after citing adequate references Bingchungus (talk) 22:26, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

yes. Meters (talk) 22:46, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, boss. Bingchungus (talk) 06:41, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

related to addition of Manohar Chatlani to Bishop Cotton Boys' School's alumni list. Manohar Chatlani subsequently deleted at AFD Meters (talk) 11:08, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

Poem deleted

Hi, Meters, I noticed you removed the poem "Oh No! It's Jamie!" at the user's talk page? It was a poem of appreciation. So what should I do if I want to send that poem to them? 103.150.52.126 (talk) 06:55, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

It looked like trolling to me. Meters (talk) 07:18, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

OP blocked 3 yrs as LTA Meters (talk) 08:13, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

Lawrence 979

That user above does not read the sources in the VHS article carefully. 35.136.190.243 (talk) 20:08, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

World Blitz Championship + Question On Deleted Page

I have brought my points to the article's talk page regarding our discussion on the splitting of the title to Magnus and Nepo. We can discuss it further there.

I also have a question, I see you are quite experienced. I was trying to find one of the first pages I edited, (The Emotron's Teenage Jesus). I have searched for it, yet I cannot find any discussion as to why the page was deleted, the page itself or any information regarding it. I only have the Playlist of the Album which was compiled by me (Link to album). I would like to know why this page was deleted, and where I can find any information on it. Bloodyfist (talk) 19:57, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

There's no need to tell me this here. I'm the one who asked you to discuss it on the article's talk page. You don't have to tell me that you are doing so here, and on your page, and attempt to ping me to the article's talk page too.

I se no evidence that Wikipedia ever had an article about an album called Teenage Jesus by a group called The Emotron. There was an article about Emotron and one titled The Emotron. Emotron was speedily deleted under criterion WP:A7 (no indication of importance). The Emotron was first speedily deleted under criterion WP:G11 (promotional), and then another version was deleted at AFD. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Emotron (2nd nomination). Meters (talk) 20:50, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Article in question is World Blitz Chess Championship Meters (talk) 02:46, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

Christian Brothers High School (Memphis, Tennessee) rivalries

Hey, I just wanted you to check and see if the Christian Brothers High School (Memphis, Tennessee) page is looking better with the resources I fixed. I'm still iffy about the one I used for the Saint Benedict at Auburndale rivalry. Dizzlessportsmatrix (talk) 00:17, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Please add new threads at the bottom of talk pages (I've moved it), use headers (I've added one), and use diffs or links (I've added a link as the header). Meters (talk) 07:05, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

1. The MUS/Christian Brothers ref https://www.localmemphis.com/article/sports/high-school/christian-brothers-mus-rivalry-memphis/522-b06ce1c3-e1e8-405a-b6df-0fb439ff8472 is good.
2. The Briarcrest/Christian Brothers ref https://www.localmemphis.com/article/sports/briarcrest-christian-brothers-hs-football-ready-to-renew-rivalry/522-cff3ba3a-2327-4997-a67c-16fd9d2bb4ed is weak. No discussion of a long-term rivalry or history, just quotes from couple of players.
3. The St. Benedict at Auburndale/Christian Brothers ref https://amyosport.com/rivalry.php?rival=83084&sportID=5#google_vignette is even weaker. There is no mention of any significant rivalry. It's nothing but a database of results in one sport for two teams that play each other two three times a year. For all I can tell the website uses the saem "rivalry" terminology for the results between every two teams. Meters (talk) 07:23, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Dallas Texans (NFL) original research

Hi Meters! I hope you are doing well. Sorry to go over this again. But it appears when I made unsourced claims about the Dallas Texans (NFL) article, that while I did make an unsourced claim, but that wasn't just the only issue, another issue (That I realised) that is I published original research, and I believed my research (That they were the last big 4 team to fold without another team continuing their legacy/records) was true, it appears that I conned myself🤦. If we make original research claims, but no source makes the claim, it probably isn't true, or isn't notable. Thank you. Hope you have a great day Servite et contribuere (talk) 10:26, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

ANI

Someone's complaining about your edits concerning common years on ANI. Acroterion (talk) 14:44, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. Meters (talk) 21:54, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

Christian Brothers High School (Memphis, Tennessee)

I know you've given me links to look at in the past but can u give me something to read so I can understand the rules better? I don't want to continue making your job frustrating and I don't want you to hate me. It's time for me to stop throwing pity parties and hold myself accountable because I understand that I'm on some really thin ice here. Dizzlessportsmatrix (talk) 23:54, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

For the second time, please add new threads at the bottom of talk pages (I've moved it), use headers (I've added one), and use diffs or links (I've added a link as the header).

Why don't you undelete the material from you talk page and start with those links. I'm not interested in repeating myself. Meters (talk) 00:00, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

How would I be able to take down a wikipedia page that was made w/out consent?

How? MrVC25 (talk) 04:55, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

Why would you think that Wikipedia needs anyone's consent for there to be an article? There are ways to get articles deleted for various reasons, but consent is not a reason. Exceptions are sometimes made for articles about living people who are only marginally notable and request that their article be deleted. Meters (talk) 05:00, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

Isnt that crazy it fits exactly like my story? MrVC25 (talk) 05:14, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

Just FYI the article in question is slated for deletion review down the road as one of User:Lugnuts non notable creations. It's way down the list but eventually. Moxy🍁 05:16, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not surprised. A PanAmerican medal and Olympic participation in a team rowing event didn't seem to cut it. Meters (talk) 05:23, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

Wondering if we should move quicker on this one to avoid more interactions like this. Will ask the wiki project tomorrow. Moxy🍁 05:24, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

User has already started Draft:Wiki Meters. Meters (talk) 05:29, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi Meters! Honestly, this draft page about you is so ridiculous and non constructive that I honestly think it should be either nominated for deletion or rejected for publishing. Thank you. Servite et contribuere (talk) 09:15, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

I agree. It's obviously never going to be accepted, and it only exists as a WP:POINTY attempt at harassment. If the user keeps this up they will be at ANI. Meters (talk) 20:08, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

@Moxy and Servite et contribuere: Draft in my name deleted after Moxy's speedy nomination. User given COI notice and final warnings for disruption and personal attacks by deleting admin user:DoubleGrazing. Thanks all. Meters (talk) 21:17, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

Antonio Riaño PRODed by Moxy, Unsourced draft about Antonio's son and OP's fatherDraft:Antonio Riano Borges currently consists of nothing but an infobox, with no apparent claim to notability. Meters (talk) 21:21, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Antonio Riano Borges Moxy🍁 21:32, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

Damn the glaze is crazy MrVC25 (talk) 05:08, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

I have no idea what that means, but if you harass me again by creating another draft in my name I will report you to WP:ANI and request that you be blocked. Meters (talk) 05:34, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Unc calm down it means that you guys are caring too much about a DRAFT that hasn't even been submitted for review yet MrVC25 (talk) 05:46, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Also you told me I could. The switch up when moxy said they could get me blocked is crazy MrVC25 (talk) 05:51, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

MrVC25 Honestly, you should calm down, you are the one that is caring too much. Servite et contribuere (talk) 05:52, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

MrVC25 You care about harassing other users that disagree with the edits you have made. Please stop harassing other editors like Meters. Remind yourself that Wikipedia editing is not a game but about making articles right, not the way you think they should be. If you are writing about your family without a reliable source, then you are publishing original research which is against Wikipedia's policies. Servite et contribuere (talk) 05:59, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

gee willickers MrVC25 (talk) 06:00, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

I like how you completely ignored this MrVC25 (talk) 06:03, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Enough. MrVC25, stay off my talk please. Meters (talk) 06:06, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

OP indef'ed by DoubleGrazing Meters (talk) 08:16, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Cairo High School

Hi Meters. Would you mind taking a look at Cairo High School? I came across it via recent questions about some files being used in it asked at WP:MCQ. The article appears to have recently been expanded quite a bit by Gumby-andrit in good faith, but it also has needed to be cleaned twice for copyvios. The formating of the some of the sections is something that should be routine enough to fix, but some of the content (even if not a copyvio) might need some rewriting. FWIW, I'm asking you since, if I remember correctly, you have lots of experience with high school articles and are also pretty good at explaining to others why their edits might not be OK without hitting them with a ton of bricks from the very get go. If it's better to ask about this at WT:SCHOOLS instead, please let me know. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:19, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: I'm heading out, but I'll take a detailed look later today. There's definitely some weird html-style formatting that needs to be cleaned up, even if the content turns out to be fine. A bit odd to see a user return after years of inactivity. Meters (talk) 23:02, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Done Meters (talk) 08:12, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for taking a look at this. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:32, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

ip adress vandalizing

i see you reverting this guys edits is there any way we can get in contact with someone who can block them because it is constant and im sure you're tired of reverting them Bastubunny (talk) 04:39, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

AIV is not picking up so I made a short request at ANI. We could also contact a currently active admin (see ). I don't think juvenile stupidity such as this would qualify for an email to the emergency email. Meters (talk) 04:55, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

lol good luck with that man respect for fighting the good fight i gtg Bastubunny (talk) 04:59, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

And blocked. Meters (talk) 05:00, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

Sears

Since you seem to be closely monitoring the Sears page, can you take a look at this sentence and figure out a better way to say it, given that Sears in Mexico and Central America are totally different company(s?) from Sears in the US? (But Puerto Rico *is* part of the US Sears)

"Sears operates in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, and Puerto Rico." Ron Newman (talk) 11:25, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, that's a problem. We should not say that "Sears operates" in Mexico, Guatemala, or El Salvador if they are now seperate companies. How about something like "Former Sears divisions are still operating in Mexico, Guatemala, and El Salvador; however, these are no longer part of Sears."? We would need sourcing.

It appears that there is still one Sears store in Puerto Rico, or at least there was as of 2024. The website https://www.searspr.com/ is still up. Meters (talk) 05:52, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

Yes, Sears in Puerto Rico is still part of US Sears. Sears in Mexico is not (and is thriving under separate ownership). I know little about the Central American stores. Ron Newman (talk) 16:22, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

This article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sears_in_Latin_America says that Sears closed recently in El Salvador, but doesn't provide a source for that information. I'm also finding a Reddit thread saying it's closed, and Google Maps says it's closed, but those aren't Wikipedia-quality sources. Ron Newman (talk) 16:36, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		For reverting the vandalism on my talk page while I was sleeping. It's always nice to wake up to see fellow editors sticking up for me, especially since that sort of homophobic vandalism is deeply offensive to me on a personal basis. Cheers! JeffSpaceman (talk) 11:49, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

@JeffSpaceman: You are welcome. None of us should have to put up with that sort of trolling abuse. Since whoever it is has used multiple IPs over several days you could ask for your talk page to be protected again at WP:RPP. Meters (talk) 03:33, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice. I think I will let it go for now, since the IP user did not edit my talk page at all yesterday, which could be a sign that the harassment is subsiding. If it resumes any time soon, though, I will likely consider requesting protection. JeffSpaceman (talk) 11:21, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Hey there!

Left a few comments on your edits on the Talk:Farrington High School page. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Best regards, Theadventurer64 (talk) 05:16, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2025

Since references on the Grey High School website have been ignored and information on the page removed as a result citing "no evidence of attendance", could the references of notable alumni also be reviewed in the same manner for articles "Grey College, Bloemfontein", "Paul Roos Gymnasium", "Paarl Gimnasium", "Paarl Boys' High School", "Selborne College", "St. Andrew's College, Grahamstown", "Wynberg Boys' High School", "Rondebosch Boys' High School", "South African College Schools", "Diocesan College", "King Edward VII School, Johannesburg", "St Stithians College" and "Parktown Boys' High School" 2C0F:F4C0:A14C:EC10:3885:4EF6:FB9D:27BE (talk) 21:42, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Please provide diffs to the edits in question.

Please provide links to the articles in question.

Please do not misuse edit request templates. You are saying that my talk page is protected, and asking that it be edited. I doubt that any of the articles are protected.

No, I'm not going to review all of the alumni entries on 13 different articles for you. If you think there are problems with any of the entries then remove them yourself.

If you complaining about my recent removals from Grey High School then you are out of luck. None of the three alumni had an article to show their notability, and only one had a source which confirmed their attendance. Meters (talk) 07:42, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Hey there!

Apologies if I'm doing this wrong. On the Milton_High_School_(Georgia) page, you removed an entry for an alumni Nadine Jolie Courtney. I added it back because it's cited in her book All-American Muslim Girl published by Macmillan in 2019. I added the citation. Thanks. 172.91.132.21 (talk) 01:46, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the citation. Meters (talk) 06:55, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Megafauna Man vandal

Hi Meters. I saw that you reverted some vandalism on the talk page of 149.108.201.116... which they reposted, so I reverted it again. This looks like the infamous "Megafauna Man" vandal - have you seen them before? I've reverted a few IP talk pages with the same junk in recent months. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:10, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

@Drm310: Thanks for the tip. No, I've never run across them before. Is there an SPI? All I can find in the archive that mentions "megafauna" is Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Roqui15 and it's not an obvious match. Meters (talk) 21:25, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

No SPI that I know of, because I can't find any named accounts that do this - just IPs. Recent examples include:

• 149.108.165.80
• 149.108.166.124
• 149.108.135.52

From 2022, I found 140.0.2.206. It sounds like Apokryltaros has crossed their path a few times too. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 03:12, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

I also found some talk back in 2010 (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Archive 50) of a megafauna category vandal, not sure if it's the same person or not. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 03:20, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

This is the same person: another one of the MOs is to use their IP's talkpage as a sandbox for their inanity. Mr Fink (talk) 14:41, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

@Apokryltaros: Was there ever discussion about opening a sockpuppet or LTA case, or are these incidents just spread too thinly over time? It looks at one point, someone created a filter to stop the category abuse. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:15, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

I think there has been talk about a LTA case, but I mostly just revert everything, and then either report them at the Administrator intervention against vandalism noticeboard or to an admin while mentioning that the Megafauna Man Vandal is back. No other method is effective short of banning the 139 to 149 series of IPs forever, given as how the vandal always returns either when a block expires or when it hops to another IP in those series. Mr Fink (talk) 22:42, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		For taking care of that homophobic vandalism on my user talk page. I'm glad to see other users, whether LGBTQ, ally, or just against vandalism and personal attacks, not stand for this kind of treatment of editors. Thank you so much. JeffSpaceman (talk) 22:16, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

You are very welcome. The account in question was indeffed, talkpage access was removed, and the edit was rev-deled within 10 minutes. Meters (talk) 02:43, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

777

explained in detail, asked the OP to drop this twice, and they are still at it and still apparently see links where none exist

Hi Meters,

I would like to propose that the article for 777 is put on the "see Also" section of the page for numbers in the 700's; yes 777 is discussed in the 700 page but it is a very cursory overlook of the number. It only states "The numbers 3 and 7 are considered both "perfect numbers" under Hebrew tradition.", and some basic mathematical information about it, whereas the page for 777 itself has a ton of cultural and sociological information about the number. I hope we can have a productive conversation about this. Polkol777 (talk) 18:53, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

No, it should not be linked in the "See also" section. If you want to link it then add the link where we mention the number. Meters (talk) 20:26, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Please elaborate on why it is not appropriate for that section. 777 is already linked in the part of the page with 777 but having it in two places means people who are curious are more likely to find it. Polkol777 (talk) 20:34, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

No, it should not also be linked in both places. As MOS:NOTSEEAGAIN says: As a general rule, the "See also" section should not repeat links that appear in the article's body.

And no, 777 is not "already linked in the part of the page with 777". We discuss it, we give references, but we do not link. Again, If you want to link it then add the link where we mention the number. Meters (talk) 20:46, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

I've added the link to 700 (number) for you. Meters (talk) 20:52, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

You're confusing me here. At first you say it shouldn't be linked there and then say the reason is that it already appears in the text, which is fair enough, despite my disagreement. But then you say that it isn't even linked at all in the body, which would invalidate your point about how it should not be in two separate places in the article, but is also untrue! To quote the article, in the section directly after 776: "Main article: 777 (number)

777 = 3 × 7 × 37, sphenic number, Harshad number, palindromic number,". 3333 in senary (base 6) counting. Polkol777 (talk) 20:53, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Read what I just wrote: I've added the link to 700 (number) for you. The link was not in the article where we discuss the number when we started this discussion. Now it is. I added if for you because you seemed unable to understand the difference between mentioning the number and linking to it. Now please drop this. Meters (talk) 21:04, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

The link to 777 was actually in the article before this chat, and at the start of this chat, here is a link to an older version of the page from February with it https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=700_(number)&oldid=1277239489. Is the difference between mentioning the number and linking to it the difference of if it is a "Main article: 777 (number)" vs just linking it like this: "777 = 3 x 7 x 23"? My only other question now is: if 777 wasnt linked at all in the article, why wouldnt it belong in the see also (as in the wikipedia rule as to why)? Polkol777 (talk) 23:32, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

No, there was no link to 777 (number) (or to the piped version 777) in the article when we started this discussion, and there was no link in your linked version of the article from February either. If there were they would show up as blue hypertext links. For the second time, please drop this. I've wasted more than enough time having you try to convince me I'm wrong. See MOS:LINKSTYLE for what regular and piped links look like in wikitext; either [[777 (number)]] or [[777 (number)|777]] in this case. These would display as the blue, clickable hypertext links 777 (number) or 777 respectively.

As for your second question, we don't use see alsos for something we already discuss in the article. If it's discussed in the article and we want to link it then, for the third time, If you want to link it then add the link where we mention the number. Meters (talk) 02:52, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

There was, but lets just agree to disagree then. I actually tracked down the version of this page which added the 777 link! https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=700_(number)&oldid=612192927. The editor even helpfully tagged their edit that added the link as: "wikilinks to integer pages". However the link on the number 777 itself was later removed and replaced with a "Main page" notice just above it.

Thanks to the answer for my second question. Polkol777 (talk) 04:34, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Kettering High School

Southfield School, Kettering was known as Kettering High School until around 1974.46.18.177.138 (talk) 12:33, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

So what? Kettering High School is in Michigan, United States. Southfield School, Kettering is in England. There is no connection between the schools, and there is no point in adding a see also. Meters (talk) 06:28, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

People with the same names have a 'See also' link, it's fairly common. The geography does not matter, and never has done. All of my edits have been largely valid, but your edits have not been? Unless I am wrong? 46.18.177.138 (talk) 08:28, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

You are wrong. See also sections usually include links to other articles that include information that might be included in if the article were to be fully expanded. There is no reason that we would ever include information about Southfield School in England in the article about Kettering High School in Michigan, so there is no need to have it linked in the "See also" section. If there are articles about people that have a see also simply because of a name coincidence, then those should be removed too. Meters (talk) 20:08, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

OP blocked one month for block evasion. Meters (talk) 19:58, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

Kate Beckinsale

Is there a specific Wikipedia policy expressly prohibiting the listing of advertising credits in an actor's filmography? I looked and did not find one, but if there is one, why have mentions of her advertising credits been retained for many years under "Modelling" at the bottom of "Career?" ~ Cryogenator (talk) 06:59, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

It appears that you added this in 2024, and it has been removed multiple times, by multiple editors. Take it to the talk page and see if there is consensus to keep this. Meters (talk) 07:15, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Again, is there a specific Wikipedia policy expressly prohibiting the listing of advertising credits in an actor's filmography? I looked and did not find one, but if there is one, why have mentions of her advertising credits been retained for many years under "Modelling" at the bottom of "Career?" I did not write that section and it goes back many years. It includes some of the same advertising work I included but has not been removed, including by the editors who removed the section I added. I note that both editors who removed that section have an ideological opposition to advertising in general indicated on their pages, and one of them seems to support communism, so I think these are biased edits.

I'll request a consensus on the talk page, but is consensus required to retain something that isn't in violation of Wikipedia policy?

For now, I will readd the section on availability I created and which was removed without any explanation other than a uselessly vague rhetorical exclamation of "What on Earth???" from the same editor who removed my section on her advertising credits. ~ Cryogenator (talk) 07:44, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

OP warned for personal attacks. Meters (talk) 20:33, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

No personal attack was made. Please stop harassing me. ~ Cryogenator (talk) 21:03, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

And I consider that another personal attack. Meters (talk) 20:10, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

And much of it isn't even sourced. Meters (talk) 07:17, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

I can easily add sources. ~ Cryogenator (talk) 07:54, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Seven months, and no attempt to restore this with new sources. Seems dead. Meters (talk) 08:30, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

High School Sports

I have managed to create a spreadsheet that will automatically format all the data from the GHSA of high school championships (Working on getting other athletic associations) into a wiki table. I wish to use something similar to the table found on the Midtown High School and Saint Pius X CHS in GA. What is the best way to format this table and add a note for years in which it was tied. Is it also important to add the classification at which these titles were earned (2A, 3A)? While this is possible it would be very difficult to add. BabaYagaUSA (talk) 18:04, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

I actually don't like tables such as the one in Midtown High School (Atlanta). There's far too much blank space and too many pointless entries. There are 23 sports in that table, and only two of them actually mention titles. A bulleted list of sports competed in is much cleaner, and easier for editors to update. Include the titles in the same list if there are just a few, or in a seperate list of titles if there are lots, and be done with it.

I have no idea which article you mean by Saint Pius X CHS. I looked at several possible articles and none of them have tables of athletic titles. Meters (talk) 03:42, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

I've nuked that table from Midtown High School (Atlanta). All the information was redundant. I've also removed the lower level finishes, and the improperly claimed girls' title (the GHSA does not list this school as having won the girls' track team title in 1988). Meters (talk) 04:00, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

This is the one I was talking about. St. Pius X They won in 1988 under their former name Grady. I would like to make them have table because it is much more clean. Would it make more sense to only have sports in which the school has achieved a state championship? Should I also ignore classification? Should I also include the titles from schools that merged into the school to form the other or only ones who has changed names? BabaYagaUSA (talk) 11:58, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

I've already given you my opinion on such tables. Bulleted lists are simpler to update and less cluttered with pointless lines and blank spaces. Please don't make tables.

We want to list all of the sports the school participates in, regardless of whether they have won titles, which is one of the reasons tables don't work well.

If a school has been renamed then include titles under the previous name. If schools have merged into a new school then it is probably best to only include the post-merger titles. Meters (talk) 20:51, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello

Since I deleted the "Model Years" on the Kia Sorento, I suppose we can settle this. 2601:280:5000:8650:BD20:6253:B8B7:C8BD (talk) 00:02, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

No, simply removing all mention of model years is not a solution. And please read WP:BRD. Restoring your edit after it has already been undone is not appropriate. Discuss it on the article's talk page. Meters (talk) 03:42, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

I gave birth date for Cyndi Tang

But this time it's more accurate 2601:280:5000:8650:CFC2:AA91:9D50:D638 (talk) 04:09, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

You didn't source it last time, and you didn't source it this time either. And the fact that you changed the supposed birth date with each edit is a good example of why we don't accept unsourced personal information. Meters (talk) 04:14, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Actually three unsourced claims of different birthdates now, from the /64. Meters (talk) 04:26, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Dates for the Iron Age

I corrected the dates for the Iron Age, which were then reverted. But the old ones really are incorrect. Please see this source:

https://www.britannica.com/event/Iron-Age

For example, you can see on the "Quick Facts" on the right panel that the Iron Age continued to ca. 1000AD.

Without this change, the Iron Age wikipedia entry is inconsistent. It (incorrectly) claims that the Iron Age ended around 550BC, and yet further down it (correctly) notes many cases where the Iron Age persisted until at least 800AD, especially in Western Europe. 173.88.129.54 (talk) 13:41, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

Read the article and the ref we use. The various end dates vary significantly, and we discuss this. If you want to change the first sentence of the lead you should discuss it on the talk page.Meters (talk) 20:19, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

Flood myth editor

Not sure what to do about this editor. Doug Weller talk 08:05, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Blocked for editwarring by Favonian Doug Weller talk 09:24, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. They added essentially the same content 7 or 8 times across 3 articles. Meters (talk) 19:54, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Virgil

Hi! The image was found through Google Creative commons license search and the license states that it is CC 4.0 which does allow users to redistribute photos. Noogometni urejevalec (talk) 21:33, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Where is the license information? Wikipedia Commons may say it is CC 4.0, but I was unable to verify that from the original source. I didn't see it when I checked the image source's page, and it would be very unusual for a news source to grant free use of their material. Having said that, I don't read the language the site's usage page is written in. Meters (talk) 21:38, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Page is Virgil van Dijk and image in question is file:Virgil 2025.jpg Meters (talk) 21:42, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Basic decency

Please add rationale for reverts, even when you think it's obvious. This helps motivate people that add there time to improve this site, especially beginner.

Also, seriously, compare the opening paragraphs of the Britannica page on Leap Years:

https://www.britannica.com/science/leap-year-calendar

Or Encyclopedia Hub:

https://www.encyclopediahub.com/ar316980/

I appreciate what I added may have not been the best it could be, but it's tough not to step on toes while making edits and that page, like many, gets into the minutia and covers all possible usages, before covering the basics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Porco-esphino (talk • contribs) 21:27, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

1. Please use neutral thread headings. "Common decency" is not.
2. Add new threads at the bottom of the page, not somewhere in the middle. I have moved it.
3. Sign your talk page posts. I have added a timestamped signature.
4. Provide a diff to the edit in question or at least link to the article in question Leap year.
5. You've had an account since 2006. You should not have to be told these things, and you certainly should not need to be treated as a beginner.
6. I did explain why I undid your edit. It was so badly worded that I first reverted it as vandalism, but after rereading your edit I understood what you were attempting to do and immediately left a dummy edit with reasoning for the undo . Meters (talk) 21:46, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

Magnolia677 and Menon

I notice you made a comment on my talk page.

1. I do NOT endorse what Menon is doing on the Canada page, but
2. I AM concerned about Magnolia677's behavior, in particular tagging good-faith edits as vandalism and removing SOURCED content as well as unsourced content

_pbp 23:10, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

Don't bring this to my page. An admin has now warned about this continued harassment of user:Magnolia677. Take the hint. Stop commenting on that user. If anyone does bring Magnolia677 to ANI over this, the behaviour of all of you will be looked at, and I would not be surprised at all if it ends in call for WP:BOOMERANG blocks instead of any sanction for Magnolia677. Meters (talk) 06:18, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

Actually, at least 4 admins have commented on this issue now. Meters (talk) 07:04, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

Concerns contested edit to Jaye Robinson , with resultant warnings or threads at Wikipedia talk:Canadian Wikipedians' notice board, Talk:Jaye Robinson, User talk:WildComet, User talk:Arjun G. Menon, User talk:Purplebackpack89, User talk:Magnolia677, User talk:PopePompus Meters (talk) 07:02, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

Purplebackpack89, PopePompus, and Arjun G. Menon CBANned per Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1195#Coordinated_harassment_against_Magnolia677 Meters (talk) 19:49, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Rename of Arjun G. Menon to ArtistProgrammer. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:26, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

replied. Meters (talk) 08:08, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

User was allowed to rename their account in spite of being CBANned. Meters (talk) 11:16, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

RE:

Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks for the update. Junket25 (talk) 17:18, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

This concerned a post to an indef'ed editor's page Meters (talk) 03:01, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

OP now sock blocked Meters (talk) 08:52, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Talk page comments

Please don't remove other people's talk page comments as you did at Talk:Rayne High School. FloridaArmy (talk) 21:58, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

Please don't post WP:NOTAFORUM material. Meters (talk) 02:33, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

I have no idea what you're talking about. Junket25 (talk) 19:34, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

@Junket25: Why are you posting this? You are not involved in this thread in any way. I know what FloridaArmy was referring to, and they know what I was referring to. Meters (talk) 23:11, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

CU sockblocked Meters (talk) 11:26, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

aiv

Why do you and your friends keep assuming bad faith on me? Magypsy903 (talk) 09:33, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

I am simply responding to the fact that you inappropriately closed (twice) an AIV report against yourself. You are not an uninvolved person in whatever is going on. Let the admins deal with it. If the complaint is not valid they will not act on it.

And assuming that I am meatpuppetting is a personal attack. You might want to WP:AGF yourself. Meters (talk) 09:38, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

(ec after another post by Magypsy903 was removed by Frost) Enough. I'm not involved in the AFDs. And I'm not trying to get you blocked. It's not a good idea for a brand new editor to start closing AFDs, and it's certainly not a good idea for one to edit war to strike out an AIV report against themself. At this point you might get blocked for your combination of edit warring and personal attacks even if your AFD edits are considered valid. Now please drop this. Do not post about this here again, and do not ping me to your talk page again. Meters (talk) 09:55, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Indef'ed by HJ Mitchell Meters (talk) 09:57, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Likely Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BuickCenturyDriver Meters (talk) 10:02, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

You reverted my request for clarity on "Bruce Nuclear Generating Station"

But you didn't actually update the page description, despite your reversion reason making it clear that you knew the answers to both questions. When will you be adding the requested clarification to the page? (If your answer is "never", then I will put the request for clarification back onto the page.) Rob Kelk 18:18, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

I made it clear in my edit summary that I did not feel there was any need for clarification. There is no need to specify whether a "billion" is a long billion or a short billion. As I pointed out in my edit summary, Canada uses short billions (and so has the UK since 1974 for that matter), and per MOS:BILLION Wikipedia does not use long billions. As for the what type of power is produced, if you feel the need to specify that an electrical power generating station produces electrical power then feel free to do so, but don't clutter the article with a pointless clarification tags asking if the number is in obsolete, non-MOS terminology, or if it's measuring gamma radiation, for example. It's disruptive. Meters (talk) 22:17, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

While it is your personal opinion that thearticle does not need to specifically state that the facility that is home to the Bruce Bulk Steam System does not generate steam power, the ambiguity is present in the article. Either re-word the statement or allow others to ask for re-wording. Rob Kelk 18:54, 30 September 2025 (UTC)

Nice to see that you have now dropped your claim that we need to specify that we are not using the obsolete long billions. As for the power issue, again, if you think it needs to be reworded then go ahead. You apparently know what you think it needs to say, so WP:FIXIT. Meters (talk) 23:35, 30 September 2025 (UTC)

I didn't drop the claim that we need to specify that we are not using the obsolete long billions. I disambiguated it by simplifying the metric prefix -- which somebody else should have done years ago. As for WP:FIXIT, don't complain if I get the science wrong. Rob Kelk 13:27, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

Please stop posting about this here. Meters (talk) 00:20, 2 October 2025 (UTC)

Women in the Bangladesh Armed Forces

@Meters:, Please see the Women in the Bangladesh Armed Forces article, a moving request was placed seven days ago on the page, the move discussion must be closed now. 37.111.200.253 (talk) 06:55, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

Why are you posting this here? I have no involvement in that article or discussion. Meters (talk) 06:58, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a source

Regarding your revert of an edit because it was “sourced from his page”, please remember that Wikipedia is not itself a source - just because a page has information does not make it proper citation. In this case, it did not matter, and your revert is correct. The information was found in an article referenced within his page. However, it would prudent and a better effort of you to add that in-line citation into the page itself rather than simply revert it back uncited and then warn a veteran user.

Garchy (talk) 00:33, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

• @Garchy: If you are going to quote me, then please do it properly. My edit summary (minor typos now corrected) was the full explanation: "his attendance is sourced in his article. He does not need to have graduated to be considered an alumnus". I assumed that your summary "Not alumnus" meant that you did not know that. Or should I have instead assumed that you didn't bother to look at Alex Karaban's article to see that he did attend Algonquin Regional High School?
• I didn't warn you. I left a polite message explaining that high school students do not need to have graduated to be considered alumni, with a link to WP:ALUMNI. You reverted my post as if it were vandalism, and now you're bringing this to my page?
• The long standing-consensus on alumni lists is that a student's attendance need not be referenced if it is referenced in their article. You would likely know that if you had had much experience with articles that fall under the school projects.
• Your "veteran user" comment is actually quite amusing. You might want to actually look at the other user's edit statistics next time before trying to play that card. You may have had an account for a long time, but you don't have many edits, and almost none for the last eight years. Meters (talk) 01:01, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

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Your edit to the Chanhassen high school page

Hello, I noticed that my edit was removed because it was a lower level score, I understand why you removed it but for many school pages they still include second place wins because they are still quite an accomplishment, I won't revert the edit but I just want your opinion and feedback on what I should do differently. Thank you, Littltimmyxyz Littletimmyxyz (talk) 13:57, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

The norm is to only list the highest possible finishes, i.e., state championships. Other high school articles should not mention lower level finishes either. Meters (talk) 00:27, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

Okay, thank you for the feedback. Littletimmyxyz (talk) 01:37, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey Meters,

Just wanted to say thanks for cleaning that up for me. That Prince George fellow seems a bit off his rocker - I have no idea where they came from or what their fixation with my account is.

Thanks again, TimeToFixThis | 🕒 11:45, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

No probs. I wouldn't be surprised to see them back yet again. Meters (talk) 06:22, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

Pima County, Arizona

Would you have a moment to look at the lead section at Pima County, Arizona. Are paragraphs 3 and 4 complete cruft and refspam?? Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 16:23, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: Yup, that was a mess. Your rewrite is a vast improvement. Meters (talk) 06:21, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

ANI notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Btf26482_wikihounding_and_uncivil_behavior. BBQboffin^{grill me} 18:43, 28 November 2025 (UTC)

Btf26482 indef'ed for harassment and personal attacks. Meters (talk) 04:31, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

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23:00, 8 December 2025 (UTC)Swiftiefromthemid

No-one supported Swiftiefromthemid's change, and no-one thought there was any need to use dispute resolution. Request closed. Meters (talk) 05:36, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Ritchy Dube draft

Hi Meters,

Just wondering why I am blocked and prevented from uploading my article to AfC. I declared my COI, the language is neutral and the material is well sourced. Can't find a volunteer editor either. Ritchy Dube (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 23:51, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Please add a header when adding a new thread, rather than adding your post to an existing thread. I have added one.

@Ritchy Dube: Please sign your talk page posts. A bot has signed it for you.

You were blocked by user:Izno on Dec 16 as a promotional account. You appealed several times and the block was eventually converted to a partial block (article space) by user:Asilvering on Dec 7.

You are blocked only from article space. Your original draft is at Draft:The Haven by Richard Dube where you moved it. Your latest draft was moved from your sandbox to Draft:Richard Dubé by Asilvering, and you were informed on your talk page . There should be no reason you cannot edit either draft, request edits to them on their talk pages, or submit them. One thing you need to decide is whether you are attempting to write an article about the book, or about you. If you think the book is notable then write an article about the book, showing that it meets WP:NBOOK. Don't attempt to submit it under the name The Haven by Richard Dube. If you think you are notable then write an article about yourself (not about the book), showing that you meet WP:NBIO, or the more specific requirements of WP:AUTHOR. The draft name Richard Dubé is acceptable.

I don't know why you think you need a volunteer editor, but we're all volunteers here, and we work on what we choose to. I can't speak for anyone else, but after seeing posts from you such as:

• So far, I encountered bullies and haters. A bit of a hostile environment you got going on there. and You guys wait till I die and you write lies. That's not cool.
• It looks like you prefer to write about me after I'm dead so you can slander and write BS. and I just want to stick that info up the editors ass before he starts writing.
• Let me give you guidance on ethics now.
• it feels lie [sic] some editors are guilty of conscious or unconscious bias, and engage in cyber bullying. and I am writing my article to protect the integrity of my legacy - that it will not fall into the hands of editors tainted by malice, hate and jealousy. This is my life, my voice, my story and my legacy - not yours. Let's keep it neutral, factual and verifiable please. Misrepresenting my lived epxerience [sic], distorting and hijacking my voice is a form of malicious cultural appropriation. I'm not particularly inclined to spend my time on this. Meters (talk) 01:48, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

You've now been formally warned for assuming bad faith and harassing other editors, and your indefinite partial block has been expanded to include user namespace. Responding on your talk page with more of the same comments is not a good idea . You might want to read WP:IDHT and WP:DROPTHESTICK. Meters (talk) 20:06, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

More personal attacks, a trip to ANI, an indef, more personal attacks, and talk page access removed. Meters (talk) 05:32, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

UTRS appeal denied. Meters (talk) 04:44, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

ANI notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Not reporting you, BTW, just that it pertains to a "discussion" of yours. TornadoLGS (talk) 22:11, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

This was Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1210#Harassment by Constable-Savage, in case this user ever restarts with personal attacks. Meters (talk) 04:51, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

Talk:For a Few Dollars More

I see you removed my comment about the size of the bounty stating it's a not a forum. I must ask where do you people get off removing information? It's not hurting anyone, but it hurt you. Can you show me where it hurt you please? Pointing out that the bounty at the end was very large indeed. I mean I would like to know how a statement of fact is turning the talk page into a "forum" as you put it? I looked at the guidelines for behavior that is unacceptable and you know what I found? Nothing of course that makes what I said a deletion. But you did it anyway? Bless you. Information must scare you. A talkpage is supposed to be for discussing how to make a better encyclopedia article. But we know that's not really the truth. It's not about information, it's about exercising pithy power.~2025-43699-73 (talk) 18:44, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

See WP:NOTAFORUM: "article talk pages exist solely to discuss how to improve articles; they are not for general discussion or voicing opinions about the article topic or anything else." You were not proposing a change to the article, you were simply blathering on about the current value of the bounty. That's clearly NOTAFORUM. And as far as your reading of WP:TALKNO, WP:NOTAFORUM is linked, as is No personal attacks. Please stay off my talk page. Meters (talk) 23:47, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

Supermarine Spitfire

I don't Know If I Should Place The Soviet Air Force (VVS) In The Supermarine Spitfire I Have Made One Change And Added The RAAF The VSS Had A Over 1000 Units But I Don't Know If That Is Major Operator ~2026-48778 (talk) 17:17, 4 January 2026 (UTC)

Answered on your talk page, @~2026-48778. qcne (talk) 17:47, 4 January 2026 (UTC)

OP TA indef'ed Meters (talk) 08:56, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Sorry For Incorrect Info In The Chromium (Web Browser) Page

To ~2026-48778 (talk) 16:54, 7 January 2026 (UTC)

OP indef'ed Meters (talk) 23:48, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Mistake

the royal Australian Air Force was major operator of the supermarine spitfire ~2026-48778 (talk) 18:05, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Previously explained on the OP's talk page: Please stop adding this. We have already explained that the number of entries in that field is limited. If you don't understand then ask on the article's talk page. Do not continue to restore your edit. OP indef'ed Meters (talk) 21:30, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Minnetonka High School#Vantage

Hi Meters. Would you mind taking a look at Minnetonka High School#Vantage? The list of courses seems (at least to me) to be a case of WP:NOTGUIDE. I was going to remove it but figured I'd ask someone more familiar with school articles about it first. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:46, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

I wouldn't remove it myself. It appears to be a list of specialty programs or courses, and I think it's OK, the same way we allow school articles to list Advanced Placement courses but not normal courses. Meters (talk) 09:31, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for taking a look. I'm glad I asked for another opinion. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:50, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

No probs. Meters (talk) 20:03, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

Richard Simmons LTA

CIR editor is back creating a hagiography, this time with the user name User:ILoveRichardSimmons. Same issues as before.

cordially, Augmented Seventh (talk) 18:45, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll take a look at the material tomorrow. Meters (talk) 09:23, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

@Augmented Seventh: Sorry, lost track of this one. It's certainly a mess of edits, and the now-blocked user does appear to have been restoring edits originally made the other accounts. I've made a few, mostly relatively minor, edits. How does it look now? Meters (talk) 09:02, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Waana talk with you

iam a bangladeshi hackers community ceo called cyber villain Ebadatcv (talk) 05:16, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

OP blocked as sock, probably of user:Thebranddunia Meters (talk) 09:46, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Wanna talk with you

this is our official facebook page please contact  : https://www.facebook.com/cybervillain02 Ebadatcv (talk) 05:18, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

OP blocked as sock, probably of user:Thebranddunia Meters (talk) 09:47, 20 January 2026 (UTC)

Sexy selfie

please refrain from deleting useful stuff. WikiGrower1 (talk) 15:08, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

What part of my addition Stop making this edit. The picture adds nothing useful to the article, and your comment is POV and unsourced. Either follow WP:BRD and discuss your contested edit on the article's talk page or leave it alone to your warning did you not understand? Don't add your own WP:POV interpretations to articles or images. Your image description "Selfie by those two women who were engaged in a very public display of mutual admiration just meters from the crowd on the jetty and were clearly enjoying playing to the gallery" has no place on Wikipedia. Meters (talk) 22:04, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Images don’t need to be sourced. You can look at the Wikipedia commons for the source. WikiGrower1 (talk) 22:48, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

I didn’t take it. It’s from flicker. WikiGrower1 (talk) 22:49, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

I didn't say that you took it, and it does not matter who took it. The description of the image is unsourced and WP:POV. For that matter, we don't even know that the woman was even taking a selfie. Meters (talk) 05:19, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

OP_blocked for socking. Meters (talk) 21:25, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Threat

Meters threatens to report me. He even says I’m incompetent for editing, which is harassment. WikiGrower1 (talk) 23:24, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

What I wrote on your talk page was Do you understand that you will be reported, and likely blocked, if you continue this behaviour? After you claimed that It is not almost verbatim. In fact it was independently created. I replied No, your content addition to Income inequality in the United States was not "independently created". If you truly believe that then this is a WP:CIR issue and you should probably not be editing Wikipedia. As I wrote, it was "almost verbatim". I compared the texts. You only made a few minor changes, some of which actually garbled the text. And now you have been warned by an administrator for edit warring, and blocked for personal attacks. Meters (talk) 05:13, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Your repeated use of LLM comments in a Commons deletion discussion, and your fake closure of that discussion with a forged signature do not bode well for your continued participation at Wikipedia. See https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_WikiGrower1 Meters (talk) 05:48, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Block extended to indef by user:Yamla Meters (talk) 11:12, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

And now sock blocked as User:Discrimination is real222 Meters (talk) 01:13, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

Lanza

While I agree with a lot of your reasoning ("believed to be Adam Lanza), he's not alive. Acroterion (talk) 23:07, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Whoops. Major self-trouting in order. Meters (talk) 23:34, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Even worse, the "believed to be Adam Lanza" was referring to the fact that Lanza was believed to have been the author of the Wikipedia edits in question, not that Lanza was believed to the subject of the image. Meters (talk) 01:33, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

Stay off my page

Dont add things on my page ok ~2025-37582-89 (talk) 00:22, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

stop denying my requests i gave you a source ~2025-37582-89 (talk) 00:35, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

We have explained to you twice that Virginity does not agree with your preferred definition. There are multiple sources, and they do not all agree, so you cannot make a definitive statement the way you are attempting. For the third time, Virginity makes it clear that virginity "is not an objective term with an operational definition" and that, under some social definitions of virginity, fingering does indeed result in loss of virginity. You might be advised to read WP:IDHT. You've raised this issue more than 10 times on the two talk pages. It's getting disruptive. If you keep it up you can expect to be warned again. Meters (talk) 00:52, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

The only view that counts fisting as loss are among homosexual contexts. For the 5th time my request is that it’s axiomatic among heterosexuals that vaginal fisting protects virginity ~2025-37582-89 (talk) 00:58, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

Your not the sheriff of Wikipedia so get off your high horse and stop bullying people ~2025-37582-89 (talk) 00:59, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm not spending any more time on this. You've made the same request 11 times now, and an admin has posted on your talk page to tell you to drop it. It would be a good idea to pay attention. Personal attacks are not going to help. Meters (talk) 01:02, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

OP already blocked. Meters (talk) 01:03, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

And now indef'ed and talk page access removed. Meters (talk) 01:30, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

IPv6/64 blocked 6 months after socking as user:~2026-67108-9 Meters (talk) 01:45, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

still socking, and still being blocked Meters (talk) 08:58, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Cross-wiki harassment has resulted in my page being protected on at least one other Wiki. Meters (talk) 00:04, 15 October 2026 (UTC)

Vandalism by ip user

A particular ip user is constantly vandalising article related to india from hindu-arab numerals to Pell equation,Wootz steel and many others Myuoh kaka roi (talk) 09:02, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

I don't know that I would call most of their edits vandalism as much as POV pushing, but pblocked from article space as a result. Meters (talk) 10:16, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

yeah I agree and that ip user is adding racist comments on the history changes like British living in huts nice that he is blocked and these are bunch of these hindutva nationalist users who want to rewrite the article by their religious agenda Myuoh kaka roi (talk) 10:21, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

Boyle County High School

Hi Meters. If my memory serves me correctly, you do quite a bit on school-related articles. Would you mind taking a look at Boyle County High School, in particular this edit I made removing an unsourced and promotional sub-section about the school's academic team. It look like most of the content was added by UKWildcats1234 in April–May 2025, an SPA with a possible connection to the school (might even be a teacher). The content in question doesn't ever appear to have been supported by any citations and seems like a potential magnet for some namechecking. A short properly sourced paragraph about the team probably would be fine, but what was added seems to have thrown the article out of balance, even if the promotional wording could be cleaned up. FWIW, I only stumbled upon this after seeing User talk:Whpq#Question from HE Sports Desk (23:02, 24 March 2026). If I went too far in removing stuff, please feel free to revert as needed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:17, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: My apologies. This thread got lost while I was on a Wikibreak. Meters (talk) 10:52, 2 August 2026 (UTC)

That's fine. The user in question was blocked later the same day I posted the above. I should've posted an update here about that. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:51, 3 August 2026 (UTC)

Q from Drycroft4

Hi Meters. Please look at these two sources re: Leachim. They are not the most powerful, but legitimate and useful. You reversed both. I am no expert on Wikipedia, but I try to be helpful. These are not phony sites.

• https://www.govtech.com/question-of-the-day/where-did-this-early-form-of-artificial-intelligence-teach-kids?
• https://www.rockingrobots.com/the-robot-who-taught-the-bronx-leachim-heads-to-auction-after-50-years

You also reversed my edits on Concrete and "electorial" college. Half the youths in America do not understand this. Manufacturing concrete produces more air pollution than all cars combined! Isn't this worth mentioning? I am not here to argue. I'd appreciate your reply with no threat, please. DC-4 (talk) 09:24, 9 June 2026 (UTC) Thanks. Drycroft4 or davidhalpernist@gmail.com

Please learn to use talk pages properly.

• Start new threads at the bottom of the page. I have moved your thread.
• Add a header for a new thread. I have added a header to your thread.
• Please indent and format your thread properly. I have outdented your thread and listified your list.
• Don't edit other threads. You made 22 pointless whitespace edits to unrelated threads on my talk page
• Please provide diffs to the edits in question, or at least link to the articles in question.
• Why are you opening this on my talk page rather than your own talk page, where we were already posting about these edits?

As for your questions:

• re Leachim: The above refs are not what you attempted to add to the article and that I removed . Neither of the sources that I removed said anything about this device, hence my summary "bogus refs".
• re Concrete: I already explained on your talk page why I undid your edits. You first attempted to use Google search as a source, and then Fairplanet, which as an organization specializing in "environmental justice" is a questionable source. Your wording was not neutral, was awkwardly worded, and not supported by the source. The lead is a summary of what the body of the article says. It is not a place to introduce new claims, particularly poorly sourced non-neutral claims. The article has a section on environmental impacts.
• re Electoral college: The lead (or anywhere else in the article for that matter) does not need your aside that it is not "Electorial college". It does not matter if you think students often make this mistake. Your supposed ref does not mention the mistake, and it's obvious from the "source=chatgpt.com" that you were using an AI.

As for your "I'd appreciate your reply with no threat, please" there's no need for that. I have not threatened you in any way. You have been making inappropriate edit and have been given canned warnings, with extra explanations. It is a personal attack for you to suggest that I have threatened you.

And for perhaps the fourth time, your edits are not WP:MINOR. Do not continue to incorrectly mark them as minor. Meters (talk) 22:40, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Quick question

Hope all is well, I have a quick question, that I was hoping that you might be able to answer. I seen that Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools/Help is initiative, thus, what might be the best place to ask a question about schools? Issac I Navarro (talk) 22:34, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

@Issac I Navarro: I took a Wikibreak, but I'm back. Try WT:WPSCH. Meters (talk) 22:58, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, of course it would be there! How silly of me, thank you once again. Cheers. Issac I Navarro (talk) 01:57, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

No worries. Meters (talk) 01:58, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks once again. Hope your break was well. Issac I Navarro (talk) 02:06, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

GATchphrase

Hi! I came to that page via a post on the r/vce Reddit. I see that you were discussing revisions to IP etc way back in 2020, and I was just wondering if you would consider writing up a request for protection for persistent vandalism? I've got no experience with those types of things but I just thought it might be something worth looking into.

Sorry if you've already discussed this before!

Thanks, JordyGrey _talk🧸 11:10, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Protected by user:ScottishFinnishRadish before I read this. Meters (talk) 17:32, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Zzxt000000001 (talk)

Meters, please note that I have added a citation to the article Arnold Kask. Please do not undo the latest revision. Thank you. Zzxt000000001 (talk) 4:52, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

You added a user-generated, non-reliable source. Meters (talk) 05:14, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

And there's no need to start a new thread about this on my talk page. We are already discussing it on your talk page. Meters (talk) 05:19, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

I have taken this to RSN. Doug Weller talk 10:03, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

Replied there. My reverts had nothing to do with the reliability of entsyklopeedia.ee Meters (talk) 18:52, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

Apex and Millbrook High Schools

I accurately updated the Apex and Millbrook High School principal changes and you reverted them back yet you’re using an old version of the school websites to get your completely inaccurate information. Fix it back to Lineberry and Sawyer and use updated information next time. WaymondSweeney (talk) 19:43, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

Please use a header for new threads. I have added one.

Please add new threads at the bottom of the page. I have moved it.

Please give diffs for the edits in question or at least link to the articles. Apex High School and Millbrook High School (North Carolina)

I am using the current web pages for both schools: https://nc01911451.schoolwires.net/apexhs and https://nc01911451.schoolwires.net/millbrookhs Neither of those pages mentions the people you claim are now the principals. You need to provide reliable sources if the school pages we currently link to are incorrect. Meters (talk) 23:33, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

THAT’S AN OLD VERSION OF THE SITES THEY HAVEN’T TAKEN COMPLETELY DOWN BUT AREN’T UPDATING!!

New (NOT SCHOOLWIRES):

https://apexhs.wcpss.net/

https://millbrookhs.wcpss.net/

I am involved with WCPSS, I KNOW WHAT I’M DOING!!!! WaymondSweeney (talk) 23:53, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

Please don't yell.

I used the web pages that we linked to from our articles. I had no way of knowing that there were now other pages, and neither did anyone else using Wikipedia.

So, why didn't you add the new home pages to schools' articles once I told you that your edits contradicted the schools' home pages we were using? You should not have reverted without updating those pages.

You appear to have a conflict of interest. Please explain what "I am involved with WCPSS" means. Meters (talk) 00:07, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

I have updated the principals and the home pages for both articles. Meters (talk) 00:09, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

WP:FFDHOW

When ChompyTheGogoat participates in file deletion discussions, I often see them mention WP:FFDHOW. Could you explain what it means? Is there any policy or criterion that must be met for it to apply? RavishJagarlamudi (talk) 10:15, 14 July 2026 (UTC)

FFD is simply File For Deletion, and that page is instructions on how to nominate an image or media page for deletion. There are no criteria as such, it should be followed for any requested deletion of any image or media file. Have you been attempting to delete images? Meters (talk) 20:13, 14 July 2026 (UTC)

No.. I m not interested in image deletions. I m actually more interested in AfD. Could you tell me how an article is nominated for AfD? Am I allowed to nominate an article myself or is that something only experienced or senior editors are expected to do? RavishJagarlamudi (talk) 20:19, 14 July 2026 (UTC)

I nominated their non-free images under CSD. FFDHOW wasn't mentioned; no clue where they got that. ChompyTheGogoat (talk) 20:24, 14 July 2026 (UTC)

Any registered user may nominate articles for deletion. Instructions on how to do so are at WP:AFD, in particular at WP:BEFORE and WP:AFDHOWTO. Meters (talk) 20:35, 14 July 2026 (UTC)

I got it ✅️ RavishJagarlamudi (talk) 20:40, 14 July 2026 (UTC)

I swear..I'm getting angry at the administrator who gave you those rights. You should at least have enough sense to know that when a file is nominated for deletion, there's a link to the relevant guideline along with the nomination. When we click on the discussion it's there, understand mentioned? You literally need to read Wikipedia's guidelines more. RavishJagarlamudi (talk) 20:39, 14 July 2026 (UTC)

As I wrote: Any registered user may nominate articles for deletion. No special permissions are required. And you've already been warned for person attacks. You wrote "I promise that I won't do this again." Don't comment on other users. You've already been told how to deal with disputes. Please don't continue this dispute on my talk page. Meters (talk) 20:51, 14 July 2026 (UTC)

Let me tell you about this. He once told me, "I'm not responding here" but it seems my reply hurt him and now he's been going after me. You or another senior editor also explain my mistakes but netural ways, but there's a world of difference between your explanations and his. Instead of guiding people, he's just being negative. RavishJagarlamudi (talk) 20:59, 14 July 2026 (UTC)

What part of "Please don't continue this dispute on my talk page" do you not get? Do not continue this here. Meters (talk) 21:02, 14 July 2026 (UTC)

I won't reply here. Thereds already an ongoing discussion at ANI. I came here only to ask a question, but @ChompyTheGogoat inserted into the discussion for no reason. RavishJagarlamudi (talk) 21:06, 14 July 2026 (UTC)

OP at SPI, and on a short block for disruptive editing at ANI and elsewhere. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#ChompyTheGogoat and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Hirematviru. Meters (talk) 03:25, 15 July 2026 (UTC)

OP now indef'ed as a sock. Meters (talk) 07:32, 15 July 2026 (UTC)

TA ~2026-41328-61

Hey Meters, User talk:~2026-41328-61 vandalised Commonwealth of Nations https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commonwealth_of_Nations&oldid=1366054098 after your warnings on their talk page. I've reverted it and put a Template:uw-vandalism3 on their talk page as I don't think I'm entitled to use a stronger one as an anon editor, but just thought I'd let you know. ~2026-41421-80 (talk) 01:12, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

No reason a TA can't leave a level 4 warning. That was blatant vandalism and the same style as one of their earlier edits, so clearly the same editor. Bumped to level 4. Meters (talk) 07:16, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

Important

Dear Meters, As you know you have a reputation for being such a kind soul and not rude to other users so I could to you with a request. On the fisting article and virginity article we must add a disclaimer that vaginal fisting preserves vaginal virginity. For a woman knows that to preserve her virginity she would have a man fist her vagina. God Speed to you Meters. I salute you. Fka ff vanvnv (talk) 14:11, 6 August 2026 (UTC)

Not this again. You are evading your indef block on user:~2025-37582-89. Meters (talk) 20:35, 6 August 2026 (UTC)

OP reported and indef'ed Meters (talk) 21:21, 6 August 2026 (UTC)

Multiple socks have been blocked for repeatedly posting versions of the above here, and there has been talk of an edit filter. Meters (talk) 20:45, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Discussion at WP:THQ § Schools

 You are invited to join the discussion at WP:THQ § Schools. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:51, 13 August 2026 (UTC)

I was just going to ask you to take a look at this just because I know you've got lots of experience with school-related articles; however, I then noticed you've interacted with the user before, and it seems like they've already discussed this matter with you. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:54, 13 August 2026 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Thanks. Answered, and yes, this is the same question they already asked me more than a year ago. Meters (talk) 03:29, 14 August 2026 (UTC)

My bad

I understand my mistakes of my edits to the gasoline page and I agree that it was wrong to do. I will not continue editing that in and I am confused about what you mean by my edit history says that I will keep making that edit. Thank you. Jjcat123456789 (talk) 12:01, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

You left the edit summary "I will keep editing this until someone else gives a source saying that they are exactly the same thing". As I wrote on your talk page, No, the appropriate thing to do when your edit has been undone is to follow WP:BRD and discuss your edit on the article's talk page. Your edit summary that you will continue to make this edit suggests that you need to read WP:EW too Meters (talk) 22:20, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

That is because other people kept correcting me without telling me why. I understand why you would understand it that but since I can clearly see that this behavior was quite rude. And I think that is enough of an explanation. Jjcat123456789 (talk) 03:29, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

So why are you bringing this up after nearly two weeks, if you already know what it was about? I have no interest in rehashing this. You were threatening to edit-war over something that wasn't useful, and then you made a snarky edit summary to accompany a bad edit that completely changed the sense of a claim. You've stopped now, so just drop it. Please don't post about this again. Meters (talk) 08:01, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

September 2026

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your recent edits to McDowell High School (Pennsylvania) when you modified the page, you introduced unknown parameters. Specifying |some_param=some_variable does not always mean that variable will display. The |some_param= needs to be defined in the template in order to work. You can look at the documentation for the template being used, but it is also helpful to use the preview button before saving an edit; this helps find any errors that have been made and ensures that the values added are displaying correctly. Below the edit box is a Show preview button. Pressing this will show what the page will look like without actually saving it. It is highly recommended that editors use this before saving. Note I have likely fixed the error by now so check the history of the page to see how it was fixed. If you have any questions of if I can help explain further, please let me know! You can also contact the help desk for assistance. Thank you. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 15:15, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

@Zackmann08: Thanks for fixing it, but there's no need to template an experienced editor for an obvious typo. And "staff" is not an equivalent for "teaching_staff", so please don't make that change again. Meters (talk) 09:17, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

A goat for you!

I noticed that you been back to editing school related articles. It's has been a moment since I seen you active and I just wanted to say that I notice and appreciate you as an editor. Thank you for making Wikipedia a better place!

I remember when I was a far newer editor I unfortunately mucked up many school related pages that you had to clean up. Once again, your work is seen and I appreciate it.

Issac I Navarro (talk) 01:55, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. I notice your edits on many school articles on my watch list, and you're firmly in the "don't need to bother double checking" category for me. Meters (talk) 21:45, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you very much! That is very kind of you to say. I’m glad that I’ve grown as a user and that I no longer make the obvious mistakes I did when I started.

It’s always good to see your user signature, and I’m glad to see you picking up steam on many of the articles that I also have on my watchlist. Once again, I wanted to thank you for your work; I really appreciate it, and I hope you continue to stay motivated! Issac I Navarro (talk) 21:59, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

School article titles

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Schools/Article advice § Title. Also see the pending; Talk:Marist School (Georgia)#Requested move 14 September 2026. There have been several WP:RM concerning school article titles. I am wondering whether the WikiProject should consider adding guidance on school article titles to the article advice page? I am sending some WP:APPNOTE to WP:WPSCH/P that have been apart of this project much longer that I have. Issac I Navarro (talk) 21:56, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2026

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2026).

Administrator changes

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• Doug Weller
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• Following an RfC, the good article criteria have been amended to add accessibility requirements.
• Following an RfC, late signatures added to administrator recall petitions after 720 hours from opening are reverted or struck and do not count towards the threshold, even if the petition has not yet been formally closed.
• The post-May 2026 administrator elections RfCs concluded with consensus for election monitors to curate blatantly inappropriate questions after posting, and to remove or merge true duplicates, clearly marking merged questions. Calls for candidates will include advisory guidance that users with less than one year’s experience or 5,000 edits generally lack a realistic chance of success.

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• The arbitration case Gun control 2 has been closed.

Obituaries

• Doug Weller passed away on 30 September 2026. Doug Weller began editing Wikipedia in 2006 and became an administrator in 2008, making nearly 275,000 edits over two decades. He served on the Arbitration Committee from 2015 through 2018 and was also a longtime CheckUser and Oversighter.

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• The October 2026 administrator elections are scheduled to run from September 29 to October 19. The call for candidates ends October 5.
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Burbank, California

Would you have a moment to look at the edit history at Burbank, California. This is a single-purpose editor, and I noticed you left a talk page warning for them a while ago. There is a discussion at Talk:Burbank, California#Wholesale reversion of sourced updates. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:03, 3 October 2026 (UTC)

Tech News: 2026-41

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

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• The process for this year’s Community Wishlist has been published, incorporating community feedback. The wish submission process will end on November 8. This year, a working group (open for volunteering) that includes community members familiar with the technical aspect of our wikis alongside Wikimedia Foundation staff, will take care of the triage process. The triage is expected to be completed by late November. Votes for wishes will start in January.

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• Wikimedia Brasil has published its Development Best Practices Framework (ABPD). It is a guide for staff, contractors and volunteers building technical tools and projects. It covers the project lifecycle, security, accessibility, personal data protection and responsible AI use, and explains how movement-wide guidelines were adapted to a local context. They encourage other affiliates to reuse it and adapt it. Read more in the Diff post.
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October 2026 Administrator Elections – Discussion Phase

The discussion phase of the October 2026 administrator elections is officially open. As a reminder, the schedule of the election is:

• October 8–12: Discussion phase (we are here)
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High School Sports

I'm back, one more time. Could you give me an example of a page that has the type of bulleted list that you want and a format that lists of all of the sports that a school competes in? Also, should the level that the school won the championship in (AAA, AAAA, etc.) be included if it was different than the level they currently compete in now? BabaYagaUSA (talk) 02:04, 9 October 2026 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2026-42

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

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• Starting October 13, wikis can change the default pattern for auto-generated reference names in VisualEditor (currently <ref name=":1" />). They will be able to use human-readable, content-based reference names that are more helpful to contributors using the source editor (e.g. <ref name="Miller2026-1" />). VisualEditor reference name patterns can be defined using MediaWiki system messages, JSON, templates and modules (more information). Admins can enable these changes via community configuration. This is a community wish implemented by WMDE Technical Wishes.
• Sub-referencing is a new MediaWiki feature that allows editors to reuse references with different details. It will be deployed to English Wikipedia on October 14 and to remaining Wikimedia Foundation wikis by end of October (likely October 21). The FAQ lists possible actions to take on your wiki to support the deployment. This is a long-standing community wish implemented by WMDE Technical Wishes.

Updates for editors

• Moderator Tools will be removing the list view of the Watchlist and defaulting everyone to the changelog view. Previously, there were two versions of how the Watchlist is shown to mobile web users: the list view, where editors could see watched articles in a list format, and the changelog view, where editors could see changes to watched articles in a log format, controlled by a user's Advanced Mobile Control settings. This has created issues for code-base maintenance: two different displays means two sets of code to manage. By defaulting to the changelog view, we are simplifying the codebase and avoiding the likelihood of missing bugs.
• The Wikipedia Android app is testing a way to listen to article introductions in the “For you” feed. A text-to-speech model reads the existing article text aloud without rewriting it or adding any content. The 30-day experiment will begin in the Wikipedia Beta app during the third week of September, then move to the regular Wikipedia Android app in October for a limited group of eligible users. A small portion of app users (those with English feeds and at least one topic interest) will have access to the feature. This experiment is part of broader efforts to give app readers options in how they consume content in order to deepen engagement and user retention. Learn more and share feedback.
• CodeMirror syntax highlighting was enabled by default for all logged out and newly registered users on the English Wikipedia on September 14. With no signs of adverse effects, the same change is being proposed to be made globally across all wikis in a few weeks. If you have concerns or feedback, or if your wiki would like to opt out, please see the help page.
• Wikidata mobile statement editing of all datatypes will be officially launched on October 13, when it will be removed from Wikidata beta features and become available to all editors. Users can report bugs and share feedback.
• Last week, language link changes were removed from Recent Changes and Watchlist feeds on Wikivoyage, Wikisource, Wikiversity, Wikiquote and Wiktionary. As no adverse effects have been observed, the Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects plans to roll out this change globally to all Wikipedias. This is scheduled for October 13 at 07:00 UTC, after which editors will no longer see when a link to another language version of a page is added, removed, or changed in its Wikidata item. Editors who rely on these notifications can read more on the project page and share feedback or ask to opt out their wiki on the talk page.
• View all 28 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, an issue where accidentally touching the graph while scrolling on the Pageviews tool on mobile could unintentionally zoom in has now been fixed. Click-and-drag zoom is now disabled on touch devices.

Updates for technical contributors

• There are three major changes coming to dumps: the legacy content dumps deprecated in January 2026 will now be sunset, the replacement MediaWiki Content File Exports will be delayed to implement a “safety buffer”, and they are now also available as 7zip-compressed files. Users will need to switch the URL they download their dump from. For more information, timeline and migration instructions, see Legacy content dumps sunset.
• Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

In depth

• The Wikimedia Foundation discovered unauthorized activity by OpenAI agents on Wikimedia projects, including edits to wikis, attempts to exploit a public note-taking tool, and heavy automated traffic. Read the blog post on Diff for more details about the activity and the Foundation’s response.

Meetings and events

• Save the date for the next Wikimedia Hackathon! We’ll be meeting in lovely Tirana, Albania for the 2027 Wikimedia Hackathon from April 9–11, 2027. Scholarship and staff sponsorship applications are currently being accepted through Pretix and will close on October 30, 2026. General registration will open in January 2027.

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The Signpost: 13 October 2026

• News and notes: AELECT returns, Jimbo gives a union update, VisualEditor is now default
  Plus a survey for North Americans, proposed changes to BoT elections, and developments in the Puerto Rican editing community.

• Serendipity: From a rare portrait of a female millionaire in Nancy to a Japanese painter in Lyon
  Images from Leuven Libraries popular on Wiki.

• Obituary: Doug Weller
  Twenty-year editor, long-term admin, dearly missed.

• In the media: A(I)pocalypses afoot
  Cannibals, freeloaders, rogue agents, scams ... the usual.

• WikiConference Report: WikiConference 2026 & the importance of in-person community
  Celebrating 12 years of WikiConference North America.

• By the numbers: Does the country of birth affect the likelihood of having a Wikipedia biography?
  A cross-country and cross-wikipedia comparison of the likelihood of having a biography in Wikipedia.

• News from Diff: OpenAI "rogue" agent activities found on Wikimedia projects
  CPO/CTO Selena Deckelmann explains the recent detection of AI agent activities on Wikimedia projects.

• On the bright side: Good people
  Nice comments and real-life rescuers.

• Op-ed: Who are our readers?
  The movement makes progress when we know what our scope is.

• Traffic report: This world is big and wild and half insane
  Criminals, 9/11 25 years later, artists expelled for politics... we lived in troubled times.

• Comix: Fudging the numbers
  Take 'em away, officers!

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Tech News: 2026-43

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

• To measure the impact of incorporating some community-requested features on logged-out reader retention, a test for Image Carousel will be pushed to logged-out readers. With the Image Carousel feature, readers browse community-uploaded images, selected by editors as relevant to specific articles. The test starts on November 20.
• An experimental notice will be pushed to 0.5% of logged-out mobile readers who come to English Wikipedia from Google, asking them to add Wikipedia as a Google Preferred Source. The test is to see if this notice increases reader retention and encourages people who use Google Search to visit Wikipedia more often. It will run from October 15–29 and will be assessed for its impact on retention and referrals.
• View all 26 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, an issue where Quarry returned an “Access denied” error when users tried to run SQL queries, preventing queries from running normally, has now been fixed.

Updates for technical contributors

• Due to a long-standing bug, applications that use the OAuth 2 client credentials flow to act on their owners’ behalf are treated as if they are logged out. This will be fixed for new applications registered on or after Monday, October 19. Some affected applications need to re-register.
• Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

Meetings and events

• A proposal to hold the Wikimedia Hackathon every three years, with regional hackathons in between, has been shared. It explores making the event more accessible to technical communities in different regions. Share your feedback on the proposal’s talk page before November 6.

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MediaWiki message delivery 14:36, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

Tech News: 2026-44

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Weekly highlight

• An experiment launched on September 29 is testing article recommendations for new account holders who also identify as readers. By suggesting articles to read, similar to recommendations in the Wikipedia app for logged-in readers, the experiment aims to encourage new account holders to read and return to the website regularly, with the goal of increasing internal referrals by 1%. See the related Community Wishlist proposal.
• Several Wikimedia services were taken offline last week because of a security vulnerability in PHP. This is because they need to be updated before they are safe to put back online. This is not a problem just for the Wikimedia movement but affects a lot of websites. You can follow updates on Wikitech. Cloud VPS and Toolforge will take longer to bring back online. This is to make sure that applications which run on Cloud VPS or Toolforge are not affected. Tool developers can see updates and more information on the Cloud-announce mailing list.
• Last week we shared that to measure the impact of incorporating some community-requested features on logged-out reader retention, a test for the Image Carousel feature would be pushed to logged-out readers. Due to an issue, we will be restarting the test, but it will be live on October 26, not November 20 as initially announced.

Updates for editors

• A new bot detection system to better identify automated traffic that disguises itself as human visitors, is coming to the Wikimedia wikis. This might cause sudden changes to visitor statistics starting from 26 October, going back to 20 June 2026.
• The Score extension which renders musical notation inside wiki pages, has been temporarily disabled on all wikis due to a security issue. Affected pages will display a notice instead of musical scores, but the underlying code remains intact. No action is needed from editors, and a fix is in progress. A separate announcement will follow when the extension is re-enabled. Read more on Phabricator.
• View all 18 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the issue where CodeMirror syntax highlighter appears to have been enabled in error for existing editors has been fixed.

Updates for technical contributors

• All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on Wednesday, October 28 2026 at 15:00 UTC. This is for the datacenter server switchover backup tests, which happen twice a year. During the switchover, all Wikimedia website traffic is shifted from one primary data center to the backup data center to test availability and prevent service disruption even in emergencies.

• Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

Meetings and events

• Scholarship and sponsorship applications for the 2027 Wikimedia Hackathon will close on Friday, October 30th. Submit your application through Pretix before the deadline!

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MediaWiki message delivery 18:54, 26 October 2026 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 1 November 2026

• News and notes: AELECT5 concludes, a Wikimedian arrested for treason, and updates to GANs and FARs
  Nine new admins, three arrests, and a lot of GAN RFCs.

• Recent research: How Wikipedians use (or don't use) LLMs; experienced editors contribute more to "underproduced" articles than newbies
  And other new research findings.

• Disinformation report: Better bots or bothersome baby borgs?
  Have the Borg landed on Wikipedia?

• In the media: Stop the internet, I was deleted
  Can toeing the line stop the apocalypse?

• News from Diff: Why Wikimedia Is Speaking Up in a Major AI Copyright Case
  When AI companies use copyrighted information, does it qualify as fair use?

• By the numbers: Wikipedian Nobel Prize 2026
  Which language versions of Wikipedia had biographies of laureates before Nobel announcements?

• On the bright side: Gone fishing
  Touring Thailand, exploring iridescence, and translating prairie dog.

• Traffic report: October, and the articles are stripped bare
  Lots of deaths, Indian movies, and monsters. Happy Halloween!

• In focus: Two Roles, One Wikimedia Education Ecosystem
  What happens when different approaches to Wikimedia education connect?

• Comix: Inactivity
  Zounds!

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Administrators' newsletter – November 2026

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2026).

Administrator changes

• A412
• Bridget
• Bsherr
• Dreamyshade
• Ethmostigmus
• Iseult
• R Prazeres
• Tenshi Hinanawi
• TonySt
• Vermont

• Dennis Brown
• Queen of Hearts

• Ckatz
• SQL

Guideline and policy news

• Following an RfC, election to ArbCom now requires at least 60% support. Successful candidates normally serve two-year terms, with one-year terms retained for filling vacancies. Proposals to change the election rules may now be added throughout the year and discussed on the talk page; formal discussion remains in September.
• Following an RfC, first-time reviewers’ reviews require an experienced reviewer’s check, and GA requirements now include alt text and accessible tables. Featured articles may receive GA status during removal discussions if they meet GA criteria. Backlog drives will run every five months, with a points leaderboard and awards for the top five participants.

Miscellaneous

• Self-nominations for the Arbitration Committee are open until 11 November 2026.
• Ongoing backlog drives: Copy editing, Unreference articles

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